The Hillary Clinton Forum on Palin

Andrew, the thread changed. Here is the link to the thread he references in his article:

http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=26179

Wow. Half of the women on the forum sound insane; the other half, illiterate. I wonder what they've done with the real Hillary Clinton supporters? These women think that the election was only about them and don't give a damn about the issues. Voting out of spite is the mark of an idiot.

Funny how they all seem to be watching FOX? At least those who say they are watching TV.......

don't think operation chaos has any operatives in hillaries forum?
ever see goprs cheer a clintons name.. expect that manufactured bs when mccain picked palin?
operation chaos is as transparent as mccains pick

Wow.. these people make me sick.

Moronic responses like some of the ones above worry me...the woman who says " she has 5 kids...trust me she knows how to run a country", should be ashamed of herself. By that logic, why not elect an amish woman with 18 children and counting? Conservative right wing nuts will run the nation into irrelevancy in the next decade if their candidates continue to win. The woman who is running to Alaska to volunteer should maybe stay put and get a first hand look at the effects of global warming and then decide whether she wants her children and grandchildren to inherit the devastations of her moronic choice!!

I tried to sign up for the forum. Got the confirmation email, did what I was supposed to do, but was greeted with a message that I had to go through yet another approval process. I guess they're not big on freedom of speech. They want wall-to-wall anti-Obama posts with no dissenting voices.

I would just LOVE to ask them about this whole Palin pregnancy ordeal. How many women are going to support someone who goes into labor prematurely, is already high-risk at the age of 44, then boards a freaking plane to go from Texas to Alaska because, ""You can't have a fish picker from Texas."

Of course, it's looking more and more like Palin is covering up for her 16 year-old daughter. Generally, this kind of thing is none of our business, but either the woman is reckless or she's lying. NO THANKS! Been there done that for the last 8 years!

My wife was a PUMA, until Palin said 'we the women and the 18 million cracks in the ceilings" Basically she went into a catfight mode said, "bbb...h ... she think she can take some woman's work and fight and make it her own, how many republicans did she do before she got there..."

If you reley stop and think about it.

Population on Illinois roughly 12,700,000 / 21 reps from Illinois. Obama Represents 604,000.
Population of Delaware roughly 830,000 / 3 total reps from Delaware Biden represents 275,000
Population of Alaska 644,000 Palin represents 644,000

So who truly represents more people.

Try this link

That hillaryclintonformum.com site is still closed to lurkers, and last time I was there I saw at least 400 comments, probably many more, 99% whooping and cheering Palin, promising to donate, volunteer, and vote Republican for the first time in their lives. There were several comments about Rice and Powell, excoriating the Dems for hypocricy for ever having accused Republicans of being racists and sexists, professing the realization that it's the Dems that are the real bigots, etc., etc. Truly a sight to see.

Happy Reading

I think McCain has gambled the future of the Republican Party and possibly America on a win by all cost approach to pandering for votes

can you see Palin and Amadinajad

can you see Palin and Putin

what foreign leader is going to be afraid of Palin

I'm waiting for the Misogynists For Obama sites to pop up. I hear that white supremacysts are already falling in line behind him, for their own perverted reasons of course.

It's so unfair. Obama took some pains in navigating the PC minefield when running against Hillary. McCain just made all that effort meaningless with the Palin pick. Or is the message from Democrats that only Liberal/Leftist strong women are worthy?

Palin is One Of Us, making her perhaps uniquely qualified in a time when voters have had quite enough of being told by elites how to live their lives, what cars to drive, what foods to eat, what temperature they should keep their homes at, what words are acceptable, and what special self-interests deserve the special anointing of the political Left.

But it's alright for Palin to tell victims of rape and incest that they're outta luck? Gee, that's not imposing an elitist perspective. It's all well and good for a privileged woman like herself to say that a 13-year-old girl raped by her father must suck it up and have the baby, no matter the devastating impact it would have on her life and future.

McCain's VP pick is not only the ultimate act of desperation, it is an enormous insult to American women. Does he really think that choosing a (woefully underqualified) woman as a running mate will counterbalance his repeated votes against legislation supporting equal pay in the workplace? This is a man who had an extramarital affair with an heiress half his age - see, he has a history of using women as tools for his own advancement. Whose money do you think bought all those houses?

The bottom line: I will be ashamed to count myself among American women if this ploy succeeds in pulling the female vote over to McCain. I always thought we were smarter than that. (For the moment, I believe we are.)

Does MCain really think women are so easily moved about like pawns on a chessboard -Trying to attract the Clinton followers with Palin not on your life-

I see Palin as merely an aggressive woman =As one who raised a special needs child=I am amazed that she would leave the side of 4 month old Downs Syndrome baby and leave the care to others plus the added strain on the other children of the family in coping with the little newcomer and its very special strain it puts on the family=

But then again I am thinking like a mere woman and Mother==Guess what McCain there are many out there just like me

I looked up the Hillary Clinton Forum ~ and I laughed. It is time to watch C-span and listen to the elected officials myself. You can find online every elected official's voting record. Just make sure that you read the House and/or Senate bill and their amendments before you cast a judgement as to why someone rejected a vote or whatever. There are lots of "other" items included in these bills that have nothing to do with the bill itself.

If you solely rely on your FOX/CNN/MSNBC or all these blog sites then there is no way in the world you are making an educated decision on who your candidate might be. We are also voting for other people than just the Presidency. Look at your local levels, your mayor down the road might run for a spot in your senate etc. etc. Get involved in all levels of elected officials.

Well after all the calls of Foul Play and lay off all you people on Family Values..okay lets put it to the test.

I find it interesting the flood of lies and smears against American Muslims and other hateful
slurs including the false claim that Obama is a Muslim or that his father is an Atheist therefore evil. But Woah, don't say anything against Sara Palin or her 17 pregnant daughter, or McCain's 15 min decision to pick her. OR you're a sexist. I'm a conservative independent and I am religious. I'm also one who believes that's a private matter too. I am a woman, mother of two and businessperson. I am so sickened of hypocrisy here and the absurd attempt to have the lunatic fringe say that they speak for women like me.

A. From the beginning, if Palin were a man...this person is still be unfit for holding one of the highest seats in the nation yet is being treated special because Biden will be called a sexist if he is tough while debating. Ask any CEO man or women if they use this as a hiring example for their top positions.

B. Shot Gun weddings are private even if it's a way the farthest Wings on the Right deal when their stoic Christian values fail them. I believe the term was "American Family" with indignation,coming from the McCain camp. Reminding us that Obama's mother who was 18, a legal adult was unwed too, but what's troubling here is they fail to see that Obama's mother wasn't running as VP. Well, I agree how family members stray or act shouldn't be a focus. Maybe the far Right should follow their own advice and apologize for all the Obama family bashing of Michelle and his father and mother.

C. The question is being a Hypocrite with all the things pointed out above it makes it even harder for progressive Christians to be respected and I find that offensive. Being a politician a VP can push for and pass laws that will effect your children too. Christian Creationism in Science class as another theory. Pro-Life without any exceptions, including survival of mother who planned pregnancy. Abstinence only. What of these concerns.

Did I mention, perhaps Christians should also be forgiving and open minded to homosexuals who are monogamous and who are very productive, pay taxes and are God loving or are they too focused on imaginary sordid fantasies that they refuse to grant them the respect and privacy they and their straight supportive families deserve. Give them the right to choose a married for life option.

Wow. there are alot of women haters here. It really bothers alot of you that McCain had the experience to do what Obama failed to do and that is to choose an accomplished , tough Governor as his VP and unite his party. Liberalism is Operation Chaos. Maybe Barack can help you guys "Hope" your way out of the mess he left you in. ha ha ha .

I am a Hillary Clinton supporter because she stands for my values - Right to Choose, Healthcare for everyone, etc. Because she is a woman, on the right side of the issues, was a bonus.

Sarah Palin stands for everything I fear will happen to this wonderful country - removing books from libraries she finds offensive (she asked the librarian how to remove books from the library), drilling in Protected areas in Alaska when Oil companies are not drilling in areas they have rights to now despite huge Oil company profits, advocating and denying teen children in Alaska of child bearing years information on avoiding pregnancy, denying a woman's right to choose, Being a Governor of a State who gets Oil Money and still takes Federal Government funds and has yet to truly balance a budget - avoiding an opportunity to save for a rainy day. She appears to me to be a Party girl rather than a serious candidate for Vice President.

I considered voting for John McCain because of my concerns about Obama, but with Obama's choice of Joe Biden who I have always admired for his work on the Crime Bill and positions on international matters, I will vote for Obama/Biden.

I worry that women will jump off of the Democratic boat and vote McCain/Palin just because Palin is (an alledged) woman. Are American women that stupid? God I hope not.
I can't handle 4 to 8 more years of the B.S. that's gone on.
Frankly, Palin makes me want to gouge her eyes out with my thumbs. Maybe if she didn't oppose sex education in schools...little Bristol wouldn't be knocked up!

One more thing......Pro-Lifers, if there was a possibility that men could get pregnant, abortions would be available on every corner. Stop dictating what a woman can do with her body.

I am a Hillary supporter and I looked at the comments on this site and in my opinion they largely sounded like they were posted by young Republicans who would never have supported Hillary in the first place. Anyone especially a woman who was a strong supporter of hers would ever vote for McCain soley on his choice of Sarah Palin whom is in no way a replacement for Hillary and her support of women or womens rights in the country. For the most part all the women I know who are staunch supporters are disappointed in some regards that their choice is cleary Obama. Had McCain chose a more moderate VP and one with more experience he may very well have picked up us Hillary supporters.

Here are my thoughts.

1. PUMAs are for real. Democrats ignore them at their peril.
2. Sarah Palin is a principled, tough woman whom I would trust to protect America against the likes of Iran and Putin, much more than Obama who is a serial waffler.
3. Palin is a member of the Feminists for Life group which is anti-abortion, but PRO-Contraception. (Do your research before posting lies about her).
4. She has never let her personal opposition of abortion interfere with her job of running the state. As governor she rejected proposed legislation that would have restricted abortion. Members of her own party wanted that legislation slipped into another bill. She said "no." She has stood up to her own party and worked with Democrats to accomplish important reform in Alaska. She puts the Constitution first and has said that the Constitution is her "bible." (Again, do your HOMEWORK before making judgments about Palin.

This election is about character, not party.

And the PUMAs have my respect for seeing through to the candidate's character.

I love the Hillary Clinton forum. It is honest and refreshing. These are lifelong Democrats who are taking a principled stand against the abuses in their own party. They're mavericks -- just like Palin and McCain who aren't afraid to rip into Republicans.