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John McCain's VP List: The pros and cons from a conservative's point of view

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Who do you like?

  • Charlie Crist
    7%
  • Mike Huckabee
    13%
  • Tim Pawlenty
    2%
  • Mitt Romney
    16%
  • Mark Sanford
    5%
  • Jeb Bush
    1%
  • Bobby Jindal
    3%
  • Condi Rice
    2%
  • Sarah Palin
    16%
  • Rob Portman
    2%
  • Colin Powell
    7%
  • Hillary Clinton
    0%
  • Alan Keyes
    1%
  • Ron Paul
    8%
  • Barack Obama
    15%

Total Votes: 86

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Now that the race is officially on (OK, Keyes hasn't dropped out yet, but he can't win anyway), John McCain has the sticky business of picking a vice president. This is extremely important, especially this year because of his age. Even if he's healthy, we want a strong VP just in case. Additionally, the VP usually ends up becoming the presidential nominee for his party.

Likeliess

Charlie Crist

At first blush, Crist is the perfect candidate. He's young. He's a strong McCain fan, helping Mac carry the state in the primary. And he'll definitely help McCain carry the 27 electoral votes in Florida. He's also fairly conservative. He's pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, and has an A+ from the NRA. He's supported a flat or sales tax since 1998. And he's fairly anti-tax. But there are a few things that you need to realize about Crist. First of all, he has a messy private life. He's had a lot of links to women, and some argue that he's homosexual. That's really going to go over well with evangelicals, many of whom don't like McCain already. Additionally, he is a maverick on two issues: health care and the environment. Since McCain's already fairly green, conservatives aren't going to like Crist's pro-cap emissions ideas. Finally, there's the question of whether McCain needs Crist. Chances are, Crist will campaign for McCain even if he doesn't get the spot. And between the huge number of retirees in Florida, the fact that the Democrats threw Florida out of the DNC, and the fact that Florida was red enough to vote in a conservative like Crist, McCain may already have Florida in the bag.

My thoughts: Crist is still a strong pick, Florida's GOP leaning notwithstanding.

Mike Huckabee

If John McCain is worried about holding the south, he needs not to look farther than Mike Huckabee. The former Arkansas governor from Hope is a strong social conservative, a former pastor, and was the biggest surprise in the primaries. He attracted huge support among evangelical and blue collar workers with his social conservatism and economic populism. And Huckabee would certainly be able to portray Obama as an elite (Huckabee was the first in his family to go to college, Ouachita Baptist University, while Obama attended Columbia and Harvard), thanks to his strong support among blue collars. But Huckabee's economic populism is a real problem among fiscal conservatives, most of whom can't stand the preacher. Let's also not forget that his Fair Tax would encourage less spending, something we definitely don't need during a possible recession/depression. And the clincher for me? McCain is leading by a lot in every southern state except the Carolinas. Would you rather have them or Florida? I'll take Florida.

My thoughts: Huckabee just doesn't bring enough to the table and will alienate more than he reconciles.

Tim Pawlenty

Pawlenty is one of the big front-runners in the race. But he has quite a few things going against him. He's unknown outside of Minnesota, while Huckabee and Romney both ran for president. He's also not the most useful guy in the veep sweepstakes. He definitely won't win any ideological group to McCain's standard. Also, how do we know that he'll even swing his own state? Romney destroyed McCain, even though Pawlenty vainly attempted to persuade voters to go out for Mac. So why's he even up for the pick? No idea, except that he's young and was chairman of the exploratory committee for McCain.

My thoughts: Pawlenty is only a frontrunner because someone thought he'd be a good candidate. He won't be. McCain will make a mistake if he picks Pawlenty.

Mitt Romney

Romney was the second place winner in the primaries, and often the second place winner gets the second highest slot. But here's the thing. McCain's biggest asset in defeating Obama will be in calling him an "elitist". If you thought Obama was elitist, you should see Romney. He's slick, a Harvard man, and prefers PowerPoint to normal presentations. He's also not popular with the evangelicals, being a Mormon. On the flip side, he could very well carry Michigan, a very handy state indeed.

My thoughts: Romney doens't help McCain at all. McCain is pretty fiscally conservative, which is Romney's strong point. And Michigan won't help if Romney alienates some blue collar states.

Mark Sanford

Sanford's mostly on the list because he has impeccable conservative credentials. He's socially conservative, fiscally conservative, and foreignly conservative. His biggest controversy? Missing a budget debate. He has a 92 rating from the American Conservative Union. Heck, while in Congress, he was in the Liberty Caucus with Ron Paul, and even has a few Paulites supporting him. His biggest objection is that Sanford will only be able to defend the South, not go after any new states.

My thoughts: McCain needs a conservative. Sanford is a strong man. And if he's worried about the south, Sanford is a great choice.

Longshots

Jeb Bush

Jeb Bush is a great guy, but he has no chance. Why? His last name. Sure, he's one of the most popular governors in Florida history, was the first Republican to be re-elected governor, and is well loved among the minorities, but Bush has a really lousy last name. And until the country forgets about it, he has no chance.

Bobby Jindal

Bobby Jindal is the youngest governor in the United States. He was elected in 2007, after having served for four years in the House. He's pro-life, supports sales taxes over income taxes, has an A from the Gun Owners of America, and supports Creationism in schools. He has two problems. First, he's young. Really young. He has about as much experience as Obama, which is a problem if McCain wants to go after Obama on that point. Also, he's a first term governor. He was elected last year and wants to stay with his platform to clean up Louisiana. Jindal won't be vice president this year. But look for a 2012 (if McCain loses this year) or 2016 run. And that run won't be for vice president.

Condi Rice

Condi is appealing to the party, but I doubt she'll become the VP. Obama basically has the African-American vote in the bag, while she wouldn't necessarily be any more useful for getting women's votes than, say, Sarah Palin. Also, she has no experience on anything except foreign affairs. She's also got the same problem as Jeb Bush, being tainted with Jeb's brother's name. To top it off, she's gone on record as saying she wasn't interested.

Sarah Palin

Lots of women are angry about Hillary being denied the presidential slot for the Democrats. So what better way to rally them to the Republican flag than a women vice president? And what if this woman happened to be attractive? As in, a former candidate for Miss Alaska? That's the thinking behind the supporters of Sarah Palin, the two year governor of Alaska. She's down-to-earth (she eats moose burgers and rides snowmobiles), conservative (lifetime member of the NRA), and is the most popular elected official in America. Again, like Jindal, she's probably too inexperienced and would probably be better as staying as governor than vice president. But like Jindal, watch her in 2012 and 2016.

Rob Portman

The only reason Rob Portman is being considered is that he is the only Ohio Republican that has any sort of national recognition, being an ambassador and Budget Director as well as Ohio Congressman. But he's not that well known. Also, it's not like he was a popular governor or well known senator. He was just the representative of a 600,000 people district. So could he swing Ohio? I'm doubtful.

Colin Powell

Right now, Powell isn't even sure he'll vote for McCain. And Powell is also one of the most Bush-tainted politicians around. He doesn't have a lot of experience outside of foreign policy, similar to Condi. And he's quite liberal on many social views, which will hurt McCain's southern vote.

Crazies

Hillary Clinton

I can't believe I've actually heard people suggest this. They must be stark mad. If McCain wants to make the Libertarian Party the new GOP, this is the best way to go about it. Clinton is completely opposite to McCain on most of their positions. She might bring in a few blue collar states, but she'll lose the core of the Republican voting base. Besides, she and McCain are polar opposites on almost every position there is.

Alan Keyes

Keyes is a failed politician. There's no more polite way to say that. In 1988, he won a lousy 38% of the vote while running for a Maryland Senate seat. He lost badly in the GOP primaries in 1996 and 2004 and then lost to (ironically) Barack Obama in the Illinois Senate race, winning a whoppingly low 27%. He lost the GOP primary in 2008 without a single electoral vote. And he couldn't even win the Constitution Party candidacy (last year, they only had 140,000 votes). That alone should be enough to prove to John McCain that Alan Keyes is not the right man for the job.

Ron Paul

Sure, Ron Paul did amazingly well for a libertarian candidate who had once run as a Libertarian Party candidate twenty years ago. And sure, he was an amazing voice in the wilderness who probably changed Republican politics forever. But let's face it. The guy looks to the average voter like a nutcrack. And he's a horrible campaigner, having only won 45 electoral votes. Finally, he's the strongest anti-war candidate in the primary, while McCain is arguably the strongest pro-war candidate. The only reason that he would be remotely useful is that he'd bring in a few libertarians. But come on. He's got no chance. He was there to make a statement and grab attention. He did that very well. But he's not vice presidential fodder.

Not even in the ballpark

Barack Obama

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I'm going to say that Crist gets it. He brings a swing state in, is fairly conservative, and is young. I'd prefer Sanford, but South Carolina just ain't that purple.

On another note, I'm going to predict that Palin, Jindal, and/or Portman make some sort of presidential run in 2012 or 2016. Probably Huckabee as well.

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Reply#1 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Well put together article Andrew. Voted Up.

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#1.1 - Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2019612,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

Interesting write-up, Andrew. I'm ignoring the poll title and inserting my own (Who is best for McCain?) because I don't like McCain, so who I would like is really unfair. :) But I went for Sanford, based on your information, because he sounds like exactly what McCain needs right now. In my opinion, McCain (and the whole GOP) have a really big Ron Paul Problem. Because the libertarians amongst the GOP ranks that were hiding under rocks came out of the woodwork for the man. Since Sanford was in the Liberty Caucus with Ron Paul, and even has a few Paulites supporting him, he really helps that. Also, tacking a strong conservative on the ticket with him allows McCain to quit this ridiculous pandering to the party base and get back to the respectable man he was when he ran against King George in 2000. Sanford gets the thumb-up from me.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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Interesting thought there (and thanks for keeping it civil, I definitely appreciate it). The one problem with Sanford is that he won't swing any states. But yeah, they do have a slight Paulite problem, and I'd bet that Sanford would help both them and the South stay red.

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  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":2019824,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

No problem. My dorm roommate last year was a Libertarian, so I'm pretty accustomed to friendly politics with fundamental disagreements. (Why haven't I sent you a friend request yet? Consider it on the way. I like intelligent discussion across the aisle.)

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#2.2 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:17 PM EDT
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{"commentId":2019973,"authorDomain":"spiffie"}

Crist wants it bad. At this point, given how he flip-flopped on offshore drilling and given his 11th hour endorsement of McCain just before the FL primary that probably let McCain win and knock Rudy off early, I'd be surprised if Crist doesn't get it. You're right that the only thing that would hold him back is if Republican oppo researchers have been able to turn up something on him.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":2020002,"authorDomain":"DrDanny"}

Interesting list and I agree with the vast majority of your summations. Where would you fit Liebermann into the bill though? He's been involved in campaigning with McCain and he's a Democrat (Independent if you want) that's fully behind the Republican candidate and not the Democrat. McCain may well want to grab a bigger slice of the independents and undecideds rather than the Republican base that will no doubt see McCain as a lesser evil than Obama anyway. If I was a betting man, I'd say Liebermann is at least on the shortlist.

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  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
{"commentId":2021748,"authorDomain":"SepticSkeptic"}

I agree. Putting Lieberman on the red ticket is unlikely, as it would seal him off from his party forever (and he does still vote with the dems most of the time, as well as ensuring their control of the Senate), which is probably not something he wants to do. But he would be an incredibly powerful boost to McCain's candidacy.

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  • 1 vote
#4.1 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:07 AM EDT
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I doubt Lieberman is a potential candidate. He might swing some indy states in the northeast and the two of them will pick up all the indy votes, but if Bob Barr picks up Ron Paul's momentum, the GOP base may not see McCain as a lesser evil.

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#4.2 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:04 AM EDT
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But is he gay? Why do rumors matter?

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    #4.3 - Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:43 PM EDT
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    Nope, but that's going to be used as a smear tactic to shake the already shaky evangelical base.

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    #4.4 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:13 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2020172,"authorDomain":"iarnuocon"}

    Nice rundown, I appreciate the effort to get the information out there. Like SteveHouse, I gotta go with Sanford. He stands the best chance of pulling some moderates from the Democrat side (although that is, perhaps, a slim chance), and given how close elections have been over the last couple of decades, that's at least somewhat meaningful. I'm not sure that Crist would help, given the whole "homosexual rumour" thing going on.

    And please, GOP... run Jindal in 2012 and 2016. I'd love to see twelve years of someone other than a Republican in office. I don't see Jindal as having a hope in hell, ever, of becoming President. Quite simply, he is just too far to the right in all the wrong ways. Talk about polarizing.

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    Reply#5 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2022104,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

    I'm not sure that Crist would help, given the whole "homosexual rumour" thing going on.

    That was definitely one of my biggest concerns. I am certain it will get pulled up if he's VP. And it will definitely hurt McCain's shaky evangelical base.

    And please, GOP... run Jindal in 2012 and 2016. I'd love to see twelve years of someone other than a Republican in office. I don't see Jindal as having a hope in hell, ever, of becoming President. Quite simply, he is just too far to the right in all the wrong ways. Talk about polarizing.

    We said that about Obama... :-D

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    #5.1 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":2020225,"authorDomain":"festivewarrior"}

    Interesting reading. You did a very fine job on this.

    I am curious to see whether or not McCain concurs with you.
    I am voting for this one.

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    • 3 votes
    Reply#6 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:29 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2020434,"authorDomain":"Jecille"}

    Why are we even discussing this? McCain cannot be president. We do not need someone that thinks we are not safe unless we listen to the govt. Im tired of hearing people say we need to secure our country, only to go and say we need to up our troops in some other damn country! The way we secure our country is to bring the troops home and pull our noses out of everyone's damn business. Get rid of Oil company's control over our govt and allow more start up companies to produce vehicles that run on alternative fuels
    " besides alternatives that use our food source". Use our military to defend our borders and take back our streets from our own terrorist, gangs! Slowly start breaking down big govt and slowing taking away federal taxes. Get rid of the IRS and then start working on our Currency problem. I know there more, but I cannot think of it atm. I know this cannot be done in a day or even a yr, but it can happen if we get the right damn people in office and McCain is not one of them.

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    Reply#9 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2021772,"authorDomain":"SepticSkeptic"}

    Jerry,

    I would think that after the Monroe Doctrine was thoroughly discredited by the events of the first half of the twentieth century, it would have taken longer for us to return to disastrous isolationism. The idea that if we ignore the rest of the world, the rest of the world will ignore us is out of tune with the realities of human nature.

    allow more start up companies to produce vehicles that run on alternative fuels

    Who's stopping them? Entrepreneurship is stongly encouraged in this country. There is no vast conspiracy to prevent people from starting new businesses.

    Use our military to defend our borders and take back our streets from our own terrorist, gangs!

    I agree with the first part (most of your ideological allies do not), but as far as the second part goes, are you really advocating using the United States Army as a police force? Federal trigger-pullers on every street-corner in America? Are you mad?

    Get rid of the IRS

    Yes, we'll just pass a hat for donations.

    breaking down big govt and slowing taking away federal taxes. ...it can happen if we get the right damn people in office and McCain is not one of them.

    That's right, Obama's the one we want to elect to shrink the fed...~eyeroll~

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    #9.2 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:32 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2022119,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

    Jerry, electability and whether a person is right or not are two very different things.

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    #9.3 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:09 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2024213,"authorDomain":"Jecille"}

    Isolationism is not what I'm talking about. Non-Interventionism is. There is a difference. Not messing with the internal affairs of a country, but trade is open. Also, they are stopping new inventions of alternative fuels. Do you know how many people have created a way to run engines on water? They refuse to bring it to the public stating it needs more research because they are not sure it safe. I do not mean that we use our military to stop the street violence. Just think about it. When you join a military when there is no war, and your MOS is that of a soldier. What jobs do you think are left open for you when you leave the army? Most that leave become law enforcement. So it will boost our law enforcement, which will give them more help on the streets, to take them back. Now, if you know anything about taxes you would find that federal taxes are not needed if we get rid of some of the useless govt. If we remove our troops from other countries and the bases around the world we could save trillions of dollars. States themselves could have taxes in order to pay for maintenance and such, but it would be low. There is no need for a federal tax. I never said anything about letting Obama in. Although he is better than McCain just because he atleast wants to bring the troops home, so he says anyway. We need someone in there that is nether red nor blue.

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      #9.4 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2020524,"authorDomain":"xcaurunner"}

      Mark Sanford is a great Gov of the state of SC and has really done well (even though not always popular with the "traditional southern good ol' boys politions") with cutting down on waistful spending and looking out for the working man. He is DEFINATELY a conservative through and through and would get my vote. McCain really needs to get back in the good graces with the GOP and conservative voters and this move for a VP would definately help. Also, Mitt Romney would be a wonderful choice to help the economy he has wonderful ideas and has the leadership power to get them accomplished. He was my vote in the primaries.

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      Reply#10 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2022126,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

      even though not always popular with the "traditional southern good ol' boys politions"

      Really? That's interesting, I thought he was pretty solidly a conservative. How so?

      McCain really needs to get back in the good graces with the GOP and conservative voters and this move for a VP would definately help

      Out of all the names, Sanford's is the name that keeps on popping up for this job as far as the conservatives go.

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      #10.1 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:11 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2049221,"authorDomain":"xcaurunner"}

      That's what I said, Sanford is a conservative and believes in not waisting the tax payer's money, less govt, and furthermore, just doing things the right way. He's not popular with all the "good ol' boys politions" because he wants to change things and quit waisting money yet other's that are stuck in their ways fight him off and vote against him.

      McCain is a socialist and really doesn't need to be running under the Rep ticket becuase besides his view on the war and energy dependence...he has liberal views. He has to get a a solid conservative VP to have any hope of gaining the conservative voters. I think it's sad that out of the 300 million people in this country...this is the best leaders we have to offer!

      Romney was my pick and he probably wont get VP (because of the primary crosses with McCain) but he definately should get a job in the cabinet working with the economy and or finances. The next best guy I would follow as a VP and sway myself and many others would be Gov. Sanford.

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      #10.2 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2049442,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

      McCain is a Socialist, but you picked Romney? (I'm assuming you used Socialist as a pejorative; feel free to call me a lummox if you didn't.) Romney instituted state-sponsored healthcare in Massachusetts when he was governor there, a plan which formed the basis for John Edwards' own (and Hillary's too).

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      #10.3 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:58 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2049514,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

      I was surprised the RomneyCare didn't come up more often in the GOP primaries. It was there, but not as big as it could have been.

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      #10.4 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:07 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2054051,"authorDomain":"xcaurunner"}

      I never said I agree with every single thing he believes but out of all the runners he was the lesser of evils. I haven't read word for word what his policy is but I don't believe it's quiet the same as Edward's and Hillary's universal healthcare. I know their policy will make it just like the DMV and you'll have to wait even longer to receive treatment and even though it's affordable, whether you have a small cut in the arm or need open heart surgery, you will have to wait in line until your number is called.

      Romney, unlike many of the others, didn't have shady deals in his past or anything that incriminated himself...so the media had nothing to hype on except for the fact that he was morman and that they though how bad that was and how he might change everything because of that fact (even though you didn't hear to much of the "muslim" talk on Obama..it came up and then went back down). The only other thing was that he flipped his opinion on abortion ...why couldn't anyone get it that he had a life changing experiance and that caused him to change his mind..it's not like he did it on every topic like Kerry did.

      So back to the main point...no McCain is a socialist and Romney is definately more conservative

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        #10.5 - Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2056117,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

        Actually, Edwards and Hillary based their plans on Romney's. I do agree that he was the lesser of two evils, but I believe there are even lesser evils (or even, dare I say, goods ;-D) in, say, Sanford.

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        #10.6 - Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2056411,"authorDomain":"xcaurunner"}

        I totally agree with that statement! :)

        I've heard Sanford wont be running for Gov. again....he says he wants to spend more time with his family...I'm just wondering...there might be something else there to.

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        #10.7 - Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2065361,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}

        Romney was an early favorite of mine. It went, if I remember one of those issues websites correctly, Clinton, Huckabee, Romney. Obama was hardly in play on my scorecard. Never was. Never will be.

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          #10.8 - Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2071070,"authorDomain":"stevehouse"}

          I'm glad you're so open-minded.

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            #10.9 - Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:07 AM EDT
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            {"commentId":2021777,"authorDomain":"SepticSkeptic"}

            Andrew, I can't vote in your poll. You've put Hillary and Obama up (both ridiculous), but not Lieberman. He would be my choice, and, I think, the choice of many. Possibly enough to challenge your preferred candidate, Crist. I have to wonder whether you left the strongest competitor to your guy out so that your guy wins by default?

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            Reply#11 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 6:37 AM EDT
            {"commentId":2022140,"authorDomain":"onlineapps"}

            Again, McCain hasn't even considered him as far as I can tell. He would have at least invited him up along with Romney, Crist, and Jindal when they had that big powwow a few weeks ago. And we would have heard rumors.

            Honestly though, the main reason I didn't put him up was that I, err, forgot :-P. I was going to, but long articles make you lose steam real fast.

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            #11.1 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:14 AM EDT
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            {"commentId":2021996,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

            I think that Crist will drive off hardcore evangelicals because of rumors that he is gay and that will negate any gains he could provide in Florida as a popular candidate. Plus he's no help outside the South and possibly not much outside Florida because of his questionable sex life. Candidates have been done in by much worse and choosing Crist would take McCain from shooting himself in the foot (which he is currently doing a fair amount of himself) to blowing it off with an RPG.

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            Reply#12 - Sun Jun 22, 2008 8:35 AM EDT
            {"commentId":2045961,"authorDomain":"politicalcenter"}

            Well done. I still favor Rice. Over the past few months, my views of her have changed. At one time, I used to malign her with the best of them. But as with many of my views, this election has represented a dramatic change. I believe she is strong and would be a great VP. I also believe that if she were to become president, we would get our wish. A black woman as president would satisfy me greatly.

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            Reply#13 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM EDT
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            Rice is a little too moderate for McCain's voting base, I think. And she has no real experience. But she'd sway indys and maybe break up the minority vote.

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              #13.1 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2046771,"authorDomain":"isaacs"}

              She might shave 5% but that's it. Obama has 90% minimum of the black vote locked up.

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              #13.2 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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              Also sprach Zarathustra.

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                #13.3 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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